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Quote Scott Replybullet Topic: Should Jamaica drop the Queen?
    Posted: 23†Sept†2003 at 5:23pm

Should Jamaica drop the Queen as Head of State and become a Republic?

Jamaican Prime Minister P.J. Patterson wants to drop the Queen as the Head of State and become a Republic by 2007.  Mr. Patterson is quoted as saying "I love the Queen dearly  . . . but the time has come when we must have a head of state chosen by us, representative of us and immediately accountable to us."

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Quote Joseph Replybullet Posted: 24†Sept†2003 at 5:54pm
I hope you dont mean "Drop her on her backside"!
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Quote trinid Replybullet Posted: 02†Oct†2003 at 1:20am
Yeah!  It's about time.  There comes a time when when every one must grow up.   Is'nt Jamaica old enough to handle their own affairs.  Drop the Queen!!!!   She can have an open invitation to visit to "get her groove back".
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Quote Duck Sauce Replybullet Posted: 21†Oct†2003 at 1:26am

I find it funny that people find this important.  It is more symbolic than anything.  After all, the Queen actually holds no power whatsoever, even in England. 

Jamaica is an independent country with or without the Queen being the head of state.  Making this change is not important and is purely a political rouse to gain votes.

Getting rid of the Queen by itself will have no effect on the actual running of the country.  Now, on the other hand, the creation of the position of President is what would actually make a difference.  I think what the Prime Minister is really after is being able to be elected as President (typically a more powerful position than a Prime Minister) and getting rid of the Queen is a convenient way of gaining sympathy for his real cause, gaining himself a position that has more power.

The position of President has its good points and its bad points.  He is more answerable to the people since he is elected by the people, but he also holds more power than a Prime Minister would and can make decisions regardless of the what the people or Parliament thinks.  He might not get re-elected, but he has the power to do what he wants for his term (to a limit of course). 

A Prime Minister, on the other hand, is not answerable directly to the people, he is answerable to the Parliament which is elected by the people.  Also, the Parliament can remove the Prime Minister if they don't like his actions.  This limits his power since he can't upset the Parliament too much or he will face the ax.

I think the real question should be whether or not Jamaica should have a President or a Prime Minister.  Whether or not the Queen is head of state is actually irrelevant to how the country is run.

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Quote Hairy_Plotter Replybullet Posted: 21†Oct†2003 at 5:24am
Babies bounce when you drop them, so lets see what would happen with the Queen.
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Quote Duck Sauce Replybullet Posted: 21†Oct†2003 at 5:26am

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Babies bounce when you drop them, so lets see what would happen with the Queen.

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Quote Duck Sauce Replybullet Posted: 04†Nov†2003 at 6:59am

Originally posted by petagaye

Yeah, it does seem like Jamaica is in the news almost daily with something going wrong... especially crime.  And one of the major causes of crime is poverty.

And all this bad news coming off the island is bad for tourism.  You may be right.  It is time for a new Prime Minister in Jamaica.  It looks like things are really getting out of hand down there.

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Quote WEBSTER86 Replybullet Posted: 27†Nov†2003 at 1:05pm

Jamaica should hand right back to Great Britain and keep the Queen has head of state. Jamaica is going poor $1 U.S. Dollar is $58 Dollars its going up. P.J Patterson need to get is old self out of politics he wants to be President to get more power I vote against that even though I no longer live in Jamaica but when I'm an old man I would love to come back to my native country. If the country was still part of the U.K. so many Jamaican wouldn't be living abroad the country is going poor and going republic thatís going to make it even worse can't you people see that.

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Quote Duck Sauce Replybullet Posted: 29†Nov†2003 at 1:24am

Originally posted by WEBSTER86

...thatís going to make it even worse can't you people see that.

Probably not.  Many people don't look past patriotism and their point of view.  The world is filled with people who want to do it their way, even when there is a better way available or someone else is available to do a better job.  (I recognize this in others since I'm the same way, BTW.)

Jamaica is going to do it her way, and that may not be the best way for her people.

Jamaica has a lot of problems and fixing them is going to be very hard, no matter who is in charge.

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