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Topic: Women & Menopause
Posted By: Shucander
Subject: Women & Menopause
Date Posted: 10 May 2007 at 4:01pm

Women & Menopause

It wasn't too long ago that lack of knowledge and cultural embarrassment disguised natural female biological functions under a cloak of terms such as 'the curse', 'that time of month' and 'the change of life'. These cycles of life were thought of in the same manner one would ascribe to a disease. Times change, as does the female body, and now menstruation and menopause can be uttered without a blush and understood as a normal progression of life.

Although menstruation and menopause are and have been part of normal female development throughout time, science and medicine still do not understand all of the ramifications attached to these women only issues, especially menopause. Aristotle noted that the menses cycles ended in women around the age of forty five and it has taken all of these centuries to learn more about what actually happens to the body and the effects of this transition. It's really rather pitiful that here, in the first decade of the twenty first century, we are just beginning to learn about our bodies, what takes place in them and the results of those changes. The good news is more and more correlative research is being compiled and factual information is beginning to surface.

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Posted By: Shucander
Date Posted: 10 May 2007 at 4:04pm
What is Menopause and Perimenopause?

Menopause is defined as the cessation of menstruation as a result of the normal decline in ovarian function. Technically, you enter menopause following 12 consecutive months without a period. Menopause has become increasingly medicalized, which means it is viewed as something that requires intervention and treatment rather than as a natural life transition that may benefit from support. Menopause signals the end of fertility and the beginning of a new and potentially rewarding time in a woman's life. Part of the stigma of menopause is its association with aging, but we age no more rapidly in our 50s than in any other decade of life.

When Does Menopause Happen?

For most women, natural menopause occurs between the ages of 45 and 55, with the average age of onset being 51.4 years of age. In rare instances, menopause can occur as early as the 30's or as late as the 60's. Menopause is considered premature if it occurs before the age of 40, or artificial if radiation exposure, chemotherapeutic drugs, or surgery induces it. Other factors that may contribute to the early onset of menopause include a history of smoking, poor nutrition, a co-existing medical condition, or even a traumatic experience.

Until a woman is technically considered menopausal (aka postmenopausal), she's considered to be premenopausal, also referred to as perimenopause. It's during the perimenopausal phase that most women experience the worst symptoms.

Menopause (or postmenopause) occurs when a woman hasn't had her period for 12 consecutive months. Once hormones have levelled off, most of the symptoms experienced during perimenopause will disappear -- although some women have occasional hot flashes, anxiety, bouts of depression, et al, for a few years after they become postmenopausal.

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Posted By: Shucander
Date Posted: 10 May 2007 at 4:16pm

Symptoms of Menopause

Every woman's period will stop at menopause. Some women may not have any other symptoms. But as you near menopause, you may have these symptoms:

  • Changes in your period. The time between periods and the flow from month to month may be different.

  • Abnormal bleeding or "spotting." This is common as you near menopause. But if your periods have stopped for 12 months in a row, and you still have "spotting," you should talk to your doctor to rule out serious causes, like cancer.

  • Hot flashes ("hot flushes"). You get warm in the face, neck and chest.

  • Night sweats and sleeping problems. These may lead to feeling tired, stressed, or tense.

  • Vaginal changes. The vagina may become dry and thin, and sex and vaginal exams may be painful. You also might get more vaginal infections.

  • Thinning of your bones. This may lead to loss of height and bone breaks (osteoporosis).

  • Mood changes. May include mood swings, depression, and irritability.

  • Urinary problems. You may have leaking, burning or pain when urinating, or leaking when sneezing, coughing, or laughing.

  • Lack of concentration. You may become forgetful.

  • Sex drive decreases. You may have less interest in sex and changes in sexual response.

  • Weight fluctuation. Weight gain or increase in body fat around your waist.

  • Hair loss or thinning. Hair thinning or loss is a problem for some women.

  • Depression. Some researchers believe that the decrease in estrogen triggers changes in your brain, causing depression.

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Posted By: Shucander
Date Posted: 10 May 2007 at 4:19pm
Symptom Relief
 
As you near menopause, you may have symptoms from the changes your body is making. Here are some ways to relieve those symptoms.
  • Hot Flashes. A hot environment, eating or drinking hot or spicy foods, alcohol, or caffeine, and stress can bring on hot flashes. Try to avoid these triggers. Dress in layers and keep a fan in your home or workplace. Regular exercise might also bring relief from hot flashes and other symptoms. Ask your doctor about taking an antidepressant medicine. There is proof that this can be helpful for some women.

  • Vaginal Dryness. Use an over-the-counter vaginal lubricant. There are also prescription estrogen replacement creams that your doctor might give you. If you have spotting or bleeding while using estrogen creams, you should see your doctor.

  • Problems Sleeping. One of the best ways to get a good night's sleep is to get at least 30 minutes of physical activity on most days of the week. But avoid a lot of exercise close to bedtime. Also avoid alcohol, caffeine, large meals, and working right before bedtime. You might want to drink something warm, such as herb tea or warm milk, before bedtime. Try to keep your bedroom at a comfortable temperature. Avoid napping during the day and try to go to bed and get up at the same times every day.

  • Memory problems. Ask your doctor about mental exercises you can do to improve your memory. Try to get enough sleep and be physically active.

  • Mood swings. Try to get enough sleep and be physically active. Ask your doctor about relaxation exercises you can do. Ask your doctor about taking an antidepressant medicine. There is proof that this can be helpful. Think about going to a support group for women who are going through the same thing as you, or getting counseling to talk through your problems and fears.

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Posted By: Shucander
Date Posted: 10 May 2007 at 4:23pm
Treatment and Talking to your Doctor
 
Since we're always learning more about menopause treatment options and hormone therapy, it can be confusing to figure out how to treat or manage menopausal symptoms. It is important for you to have a doctor that you trust, so you can have an open talk about your concerns and your treatment options. Then you can make informed decisions about your health that you feel good about. If you feel that you have talked openly with your doctor and still don't feel satisfied, you should think about getting a second opinion.

Knowing how to talk to your doctor or other members of your health care team can help you get the information you need about menopause. Your doctor will tell you, as you near menopause, that you may have symptoms from the changes your body is making. For some women, their menopause symptoms will go away over time without treatment. Other women will choose treatment for their symptoms.

Talk to your doctor about how to best manage menopause. Talk about your symptoms and whether they bother you. Make sure the doctor knows your medical history and your family medical history. This includes whether you are at risk for heart disease, osteoporosis, and breast cancer. Remember that your decision is never final. You can, and should review it with your doctor during a checkup. Your needs may change, and so might what we know about menopause.

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Posted By: Shucander
Date Posted: 10 May 2007 at 4:30pm

Hormone Therapy

The use of hormone therapy has been debated a great deal since the Women's Health Initiative (WHI) Hormone Study findings were released in 2002. Before this study, it was thought that hormone therapy could ward off heart disease, osteoporosis, and cancer, while improving women's quality of life. Findings emerged from clinical trials that showed this was not so. In fact, long-term use of hormone therapy poses serious risks and may increase the risk of heart attack and stroke.

During perimenopause, some doctors suggest birth control pills to help with very heavy, frequent, or unpredictable menstrual periods. These pills might also help with symptoms like hot flashes, as well as prevent pregnancy. As you get closer to menopause, you might be bothered more by symptoms like hot flashes, night sweats, or vaginal dryness. Your doctor might then suggest taking estrogen, as well as progesterone, if you still have a uterus. Taking these hormones will probably help with menopause symptoms and prevent the bone loss that can happen at menopause. However, there is a chance your symptoms will come back when you stop hormone therapy.

Currently, hormone therapy is recommended for postmenopausal women who have moderate to severe hot flashes or night sweats. Instead of hormone pills, topical hormones like vaginal creams are recommended for women who have problems with vaginal dryness. Women should talk about these issues with their doctors, who also may prescribe hormones to prevent osteoporosis if other kinds of medicines cannot be taken. Postmenopausal women should not take hormone therapy as they grow older to prevent problems like heart disease.

Hormone therapy can help with menopause by:

  • Reducing hot flashes
  • Treating vaginal dryness
  • Slowing bone loss
  • Decreasing mood swings and depression
  • Improving sleep

For some women, hormone therapy may increase their chance of getting:

  • Blood clots
  • Heart attacks
  • Strokes
  • Breast cancer
  • Gall bladder disease

Who should NOT take hormone therapy for menopause:

Women who . . .

  • Think they are pregnant
  • Have problems with vaginal bleeding
  • Have had certain kinds of cancers (such as breast and uterine cancer)
  • Have had a stroke or heart attack
  • Have had blood clots
  • Have liver disease

Hormone therapy can also cause these side effects:

  • Bleeding
  • Bloating
  • Breast tenderness or enlargement
  • Headaches
  • Mood changes
  • Nausea

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Posted By: Shucander
Date Posted: 10 May 2007 at 4:33pm

Natural Treatments/Alternative Therapies

You may want to consider alternatives to hormone therapy to ease menopausal symptoms. Some women decide to take herbal, natural, or plant-based products to help their symptoms. But there is not enough evidence to know if treatments like these are helpful. Tell your doctor if you are taking any of these treatments. They may have side effects or make another drug not work as well. Some of the most common ones are:

  • Soy. This contains phytoestrogens (estrogen-like substances from a plant). Some research has shown that soy food products can help with mild hot flashes. Other research suggests that women who have been diagnosed with estrogen-dependent breast cancer should be cautious with their soy intake. Eating large amounts of soy products could be harmful for women with this type of breast cancer.

  • Other sources of phytoestrogens. The active ingredients in most dietary supplements for menopause are phytoestrogens — chemicals found in plants that may act like the estrogen produced naturally in the body. These include herbs, such as black cohosh, wild yam, dong quai, and valerian root.

  • Bioidentical hormone therapy. Bioidentical hormones are custom-mixed formulas containing various hormones that are chemically identical to those naturally made by your body. These over-the-counter products are marketed as being tailored to a woman's individual hormone needs. There are two main types of Bioidentical hormones:
    1. Those that are FDA-approved and commercially available with a prescription
    2. Those that are mixed on an individual basis for women in compounding pharmacies, which are NOT FDA-approved

It is important to know that alternative therapies can affect medical care by introducing personal belief systems that are not typically a part of the doctor-patient relationship.

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Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 10 May 2007 at 5:01pm
wow   shucander...you're  breaking  Broken%20Heart of the ladies....Disapprove

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It is better to take refuge in the LORD than to trust in man.


Posted By: Shucander
Date Posted: 10 May 2007 at 5:18pm
Premature Menopause

Premature menopause is menopause that happens before the age of 40 — whether it is natural or induced. Women who enter menopause early get symptoms similar to those of natural menopause, like hot flashes, emotional problems, vaginal dryness, and decreased sex drive. For some women with early menopause, these symptoms are severe. Also, women who have early menopause tend to get weaker bones faster than women who enter menopause later in life. This raises their chances of getting osteoporosis and breaking a bone. Premature menopause can happen for these reasons.

  • Chromosome defects. Defects in the chromosomes can cause premature menopause. For example, women with Turner's syndrome are born without a second X chromosome or born without part of the chromosome. The ovaries don't form normally, and early menopause results.

  • Genetics. Women with a family history of premature menopause are more likely to have early menopause themselves.

  • Autoimmune diseases. The body's immune system, which normally fights off diseases, mistakenly attacks a part of its own reproductive system. This hurts the ovaries and prevents them from making female hormones. Thyroid disease and rheumatoid arthritis are two diseases in which this can happen.

  • Surgery to Remove the Ovaries. Surgical removal of both ovaries, also called a bilateral oophorectomy, puts a woman into menopause right away. She will no longer have periods, and hormones decline rapidly. She may have menopausal symptoms right away, like hot flashes and diminished sexual desire. Women who have a hysterectomy, but have their ovaries left in place, will not have induced menopause because their ovaries will continue to make hormones. But because their uterus is removed, they no longer have their periods and cannot get pregnant. They might have hot flashes since the surgery can sometimes disturb the blood supply to the ovaries. Later on, they might have natural menopause a year or two earlier than expected.

  • Chemotherapy or Pelvic Radiation Treatments for Cancer. Cancer chemotherapy or pelvic radiation therapy for reproductive system cancers can cause ovarian damage. Women may stop getting their periods, have fertility problems, or lose their fertility. This can happen right away or take several months. With cancer treatment, the chances of going into menopause depend on the type of chemotherapy used, how much was used, and the age of the woman when she gets treatment. The younger a woman is, the less likely she will go into menopause.

How to Find Out if You Have Premature Menopause

Your doctor will ask you if you've had changes typical of menopause, like hot flashes, irregular periods, sleep problems, and vaginal dryness. Normally, menopause is confirmed when a woman hasn't had her period for 12 months in a row.

However, with certain types of premature menopause, these signs may not be enough for a diagnosis. A blood test that measures follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) can be done. Your ovaries use this hormone to make estrogen. FSH levels rise when the ovaries stop making estrogen. When FSH levels are higher than normal, you've reached menopause. However, your estrogen levels vary daily, so you may need this test more than once to know for sure.

You may also have a test for levels of estradiol (a type of estrogen) and luetinizing hormone (LH). Estradiol levels fall when the ovaries fail. Levels lower than normal are a sign of menopause. LH is a hormone that triggers ovulation. If you test above normal levels, you've gone through menopause.

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Posted By: sandra
Date Posted: 11 May 2007 at 7:01am
Why did Mother EVE have to go eat the apple, huh? Now women have to go through childbirth pain, menustration, menopause.

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I asked for all things so that I might enjoy life; I was given life so that I might enjoy all things


Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 11 May 2007 at 7:10am

Sandy  I think.......  oops Apple%20Mac Maybe , she didn't  like Ice%20Cream



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It is better to take refuge in the LORD than to trust in man.


Posted By: Shucander
Date Posted: 11 May 2007 at 9:24am
 

Nutritional supplements

 Make sure you get enough calcium and vitamin D in your diet to reduce the risk of osteoporosis. As a general rule of thumb, the recommendation is at least 1,000mg of calcium a day from food or supplements. Your doctor should be able to advise you if supplements are necessary.

Make sure you get enough calcium and vitamin D in your diet to reduce the risk of osteoporosis

 
Essential fatty acids (EFAs), such as those found in nuts, seeds and oily fish, can be very useful if the skin becomes dry or if you suffer from joint pains. The best EFAs are those from the omega-3 and omega-6 families, which are found in pumpkin seeds, oily fish, walnuts, linseeds, dark green vegetables and oils such as sesame, walnut, soya and sunflower. EFAs can also help in the prevention of vaginal dryness and bladder infections, as well as increasing your mental and physical energy.

Natural plant oestrogens in the form of soya beans, alfalfa sprouts or linseeds are a useful supplement, as long as you aren't already on an oestrogen replacement therapy. Make sure you get instructions from a reputable source.

Complementary medicine

There are several alternative medicines and therapies which are said to be helpful in the treatment of menopausal symptoms, including:

  • aromatherapy
  • homeopathy
  • yoga
  • relaxation techniques
  • herbal medicine such as agnus castus and black cohosh

Evening primrose oil and vitamin E have been suggested as a preventative measure for hot flushes.

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Posted By: Shucander
Date Posted: 11 May 2007 at 9:28am

Self-help tips

Coping with hot flushes - wear layers of clothing, which you can easily peel off and put on again. Wear natural fibres. Use cotton bedding and nightclothes, which absorb moisture more efficiently.

 

Avoiding hot flushes - keep hot drinks such as tea and coffee, alcohol and spicy foods to a minimum. (Avoiding tea and coffee is also a good idea because caffeine can cause insomnia and lead to calcium being lost from the body.) If you need tea, try a herbal alternative.

Keep hot drinks such as tea and coffee, alcohol and spicy foods to a minimum

 
 
Don't smoke - smoking increases the risk of heart disease and osteoporosis, so if you've been thinking about giving up but never quite got round to it, now is the time to make the break for good.

Stick to a healthy diet and get plenty of exercise - this will help to keep stress levels to a minimum, as well as being of physical benefit. It's never too late to start!

Drink plenty of water - it's a great cleanser and purifier and can help with many of the symptoms, including hot flushes, headaches and dry skin.

Get support - having people around you who understand what's going on is invaluable. Talk to your family; if there's no one, don't be embarrassed to ask for support elsewhere. There are lots of organisations with a great deal of resources to hand (see below).

Continue to use contraception - for two years after your last period if you're under 50, or otherwise a year.

Try to stay positive - and remember, this is only a temporary phase in your life.

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Posted By: Snowflake
Date Posted: 11 May 2007 at 9:55am

Is Shucander thinking we are all in the menopause?



Posted By: sandra
Date Posted: 11 May 2007 at 10:01am
I don't think so, Snowflake. He's just trying to help those who are in the menopause.

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I asked for all things so that I might enjoy life; I was given life so that I might enjoy all things


Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 11 May 2007 at 10:15am
Sandy  ...are you ready, fasten seatbelt.....

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It is better to take refuge in the LORD than to trust in man.


Posted By: Shucander
Date Posted: 12 May 2007 at 12:50am
Originally posted by Snowflake

Is Shucander thinking we are all in the menopause?

 
 
WinkCaribbean choice is a site that have a world acceptance, and many guest and members are looking for information. When I put some information on this web-site I do it always for the general public of the world. Not for someone specific, or for one person. BTW, You was the only who have read reply the info with all the respect, in the thread Sexy at 40. There it turns in a Smoked Turkey Issue.
 
No, I do not think all member are in the MP.
Shocked


Posted By: Shucander
Date Posted: 12 May 2007 at 12:58am

The Silent Passage

All women face menopause, but, as Gail Sheehy so compellingly reveals in interviews with women from a broad spectrum of economic, ethnic, and racial backgrounds, the passage is seldom easy. Distracting symptoms, confusing medical advise, unsympathetic reactions from loved ones, and the scornful attitudes of society at large often make menopause a lonely and emotionally draining experience.

In this ground-breaking book, Sheehy sets out to erase the stigma of menopause and "render normalcy to a normal physical process." She writes frankly about her own experiences and uncovers the frustrations of other women who have long suffered in silence. She brings together the most current information from the Untied States and abroad and assesses women’s options and risks. This is a book of candor and hope that places menopause within the cycle of life as "the gateway to a second adulthood."

When portions of this book first appeared in Vanity Fair, the response was immediate and electrifying. For everyone who has experienced menopause – and the millions of women of the baby-boom generation who will soon face it – The Silent Passage is sure to become a touchstone.

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Posted By: ilam96
Date Posted: 12 May 2007 at 2:04am
Originally posted by Shucander

BTW, You was the only who have read the info with all the respect, in the thread Sexy at 40. There it turns in a Smoked Turkey Issue.
 
and jus how do u KNOW that.....?


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Posted By: Shucander
Date Posted: 12 May 2007 at 2:20am
WinkSVP (See PM)


Posted By: ilam96
Date Posted: 12 May 2007 at 2:35am
yeah, but how do u KNOW that is only her who read the info? lmao

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"I cried because I had no shoe, until I met a man with no feet."


Posted By: Snowflake
Date Posted: 13 May 2007 at 3:28pm
Shucander, why? I didn't read the info because I'm far from my menopause.


Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 13 May 2007 at 6:10pm
Originally posted by Snowflake

Shucander, why? I didn't read the info because I'm far from my menopause.
Mischievous%20Group.............Wink


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It is better to take refuge in the LORD than to trust in man.


Posted By: Shucander
Date Posted: 14 May 2007 at 12:23am
The Menopause Revolution

Menopause. It’s a word laden with emotion, stigma and dread, and yet it’s a natural part of every woman’s life. We all, at some point in our lives, will go through menopause, so why does something so natural and unavoidable fill us with such a feeling of fear and dread?

We see our mothers battling with weight gain, hot flushes, painful and irregular periods, hormone replacement therapy (HRT), and we’re afraid. Many of us are dealing with our own women’s issues: fertility problems, having babies (or trying not to have babies), and menopause is something we just don’t want to think about.

It’s a confusing minefield of information and misinformation that not even members of the medical profession seem to be able to get a handle on, never mind come to an agreement on the best way to treat the various symptoms of menopause.

For more than 30 years the answer for many women (and their doctors) was to treat menopausal symptoms with HRT, in particular boosting declining hormone levels with synthetic hormones. These synthetic hormones alleviated many menopausal symptoms, and appeared to protect women from cardiovascular disease and osteoporosis, two of the leading causes of death in older women.

But recent studies have shown that using synthetic estrogens and progestin (synthetic progesterone) to treat menopause greatly increases the risks of developing breast cancer and endometrial (uterine) cancer in menopausal women. Studies have also shown that rather than protecting women from cardiovascular disease, these synthetic hormones actually increased their risk of coronary disease, as well as increasing the risk of blood clots, gall bladder disease and stroke. One particular report from the Women’s Health Initiative found that women taking HRT were 26 percent more likely to contract breast cancer than those not taking it. This report, released in 2002, combined with previous research highlighting the dangers of HRT, saw many women cease treatment completely.

Since 2002, many women have either taken no further action to treat the symptoms of menopause, or have been looking at alternative treatments. The question is though, how do we know what alternative treatments are available, how they work, and what the possible health ramifications of the treatment might be?

To provide some much-needed clarification, Dr Martin Milner - a naturopathic physician with 22 years experience in the field of menopause and its symptoms - has written: The Menopause Revolution: Smashing the HRT Myth, a book aimed at cutting through the mystery surrounding both menopause and HRT.

by K Burnett-Watson
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Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 14 May 2007 at 4:26am

OMG...Oh%20My  Just  tell me   *What is Menopause**(Not the meaning of the word)That shucander showed me,  for almost a week Nod , but still... I really don't  know ,what ***MENOPAUSE *** isWink 



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It is better to take refuge in the LORD than to trust in man.


Posted By: Snowflake
Date Posted: 14 May 2007 at 5:44am
The average onset of menopause is 46 years, but some women enter menopause at a younger age.
 
Hmmmmmmmm that's early! Didn't know ... because in my family all the women had it much later.
 
What I heard is, if a woman didn't get pregnant for a long time it can start earlier. I wonder if it's true.


Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 14 May 2007 at 5:49am
La%20La%20La

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It is better to take refuge in the LORD than to trust in man.


Posted By: sandra
Date Posted: 14 May 2007 at 6:57am
MENOPAUSE, some women do not go through at all, while others go through some terrible symptoms. Some only get hot flashes, others even die from it. The hot flashes are the pits.

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I asked for all things so that I might enjoy life; I was given life so that I might enjoy all things


Posted By: Scott
Date Posted: 14 May 2007 at 1:03pm
Women react to things very differently.  Some women have more issues during menopause than others, just like some women have more issues through childbirth than others.  I suppose that if a person can go 9 months without knowing she is pregnant, a women can go through menopause without having any issues at all.

And with all the posting by Shucander, I was starting to think he was going through menopause.


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Posted By: Snowflake
Date Posted: 14 May 2007 at 1:08pm
LOLI was thinking the same about Shucanda, oooops Shucander


Posted By: ilam96
Date Posted: 14 May 2007 at 1:42pm
Originally posted by Scott

if a person can go 9 months without knowing she is pregnan
 
when and where was that? Shocked


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"I cried because I had no shoe, until I met a man with no feet."


Posted By: Snowflake
Date Posted: 14 May 2007 at 1:46pm
It always happens again to women.


Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 14 May 2007 at 2:07pm
About  so many posts about menopause  I think got  pregnant ...peeps..
 
                        


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It is better to take refuge in the LORD than to trust in man.


Posted By: Shucander
Date Posted: 14 May 2007 at 5:14pm
Originally posted by Scott

Women react to things very differently.  Some women have more issues during menopause than others, just like some women have more issues through childbirth than others.  I suppose that if a person can go 9 months without knowing she is pregnant, a women can go through menopause without having any issues at all.

And with all the posting by Shucander, I was starting to think he was going through menopause.
 
 
Scott I think that your commenter is very rudely , and that I have totally not expected this from you.  The respect for other that is quite important for me as a person.  You can't say that I'm in the menopause, and men cannot go in the menopause.  But Your comment Ito me is very RUDE.  Men seek always to information. If you don't want to upgrade the topics here you can send me a PM...!!!


Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 14 May 2007 at 5:42pm
Originally posted by Scott

Women react to things very differently.  Some women have more issues during menopause than others, just like some women have more issues through childbirth than others.  I suppose that if a person can go 9 months without knowing she is pregnant, a women can go through menopause without having any issues at all.

And with all the posting by Shucander, I was starting to think he was going through menopause.
OOPS.... 


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It is better to take refuge in the LORD than to trust in man.


Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 14 May 2007 at 5:47pm
Shucander   ...sorry  pero e  no tabata  kiermeen  asina  ey...ta wega  nos  tabata hasi...pero no ta e bedoeling  pa  bo sinti bo dirigi cu e palabra...
 
mi no ta tuma  parti pe  pero  ta nos hende  muher  a cuminsa  cu e wega.
 
laga nos  sigui cu e topico  gewoon..Abo ta hasiendo un bon trabou...
Duna cesar  loke ta di cesar...petje af  pa bo.Thumbs%20Up


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It is better to take refuge in the LORD than to trust in man.


Posted By: Scott
Date Posted: 14 May 2007 at 7:46pm
Originally posted by Shucander

Originally posted by Scott



And with all the posting by Shucander, I was starting to think he was going through menopause.
Scott I think that your commenter is very rudely , and that I have totally not expected this from you.  The respect for other that is quite important for me as a person.  You can't say that I'm in the menopause, and men cannot go in the menopause.  But Your comment Ito me is very RUDE.  Men seek always to information. If you don't want to upgrade the topics here you can send me a PM...!!!


It was a joke, Shucander. I apologize if you thought I was being rude. That was not my intention.

But I would recommend being able to laugh once and while and not take everything so seriously.

Life is too short to get angry over a harmless joke.


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Posted By: Snowflake
Date Posted: 15 May 2007 at 5:36am
I promise to Shucander that I will never call him "Shucanda" (see Page 3) again ...Smile


Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 15 May 2007 at 5:45am
OOPS   gurls........  I spoke  to shucander  that  I was the  one  who started with  this  JOKE...so we woman  having  fun , not of him  about  the joke...'
 
But Snowy..I thought  that  it was  a TYPO mistake(Fout)
 
But I hope  and  wish, that  there out  will be  an Angel Sillywith a solution  for  THE MENOPAUSESCOPY...Whistling.


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It is better to take refuge in the LORD than to trust in man.


Posted By: sandra
Date Posted: 15 May 2007 at 7:28am
menopausescopy    There is no solution, vutje. Weeeellll...there is one - Prempro. A friend of mine took it and her hot flashes ceased. As you know, there's always a side effect.

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Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 15 May 2007 at 11:29am
Do you think  so  sandy....????  there must  be a solution, for every problemNurse

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Posted By: sandra
Date Posted: 15 May 2007 at 12:25pm
The solution is taking medication prescribed by the doc. The herbal remedies doesn't work. So we suffer in silence or make everyone around us miserable.

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Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 15 May 2007 at 12:45pm
I think  that I won't give up...I will keep hoping and have faith and keep fighting.Praying

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Posted By: weezie
Date Posted: 22 May 2007 at 1:50pm
Originally posted by sandra

Why did Mother EVE have to go eat the apple, huh? Now women have to go through childbirth pain, menustration, menopause.

 Confused Do we?


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Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 22 May 2007 at 6:47pm
Originally posted by weezie

Originally posted by sandra

Why did Mother EVE have to go eat the apple, huh? Now women have to go through childbirth pain, menustration, menopause.

 Confused Do we?
 Don....Doubt...I%20Don


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Posted By: Shucander
Date Posted: 02 June 2007 at 1:45am
How Can A Women Stay Healthy After Menopause?

Staying healthy after menopause may mean making some changes in the way you live.

  • Don’t smoke. If you do use any type of tobacco, stop—it’s never too late to benefit from quitting smoking.
  • Eat a healthy diet—one low in fat, high in fiber, with plenty of fruits, vegetables, and whole-grain foods, as well as all the important vitamins and minerals.
  • Make sure you get enough calcium and vitamin D—in your diet or in vitamin/mineral supplements.
  • Learn what your healthy weight is, and try to stay there.
  • Do weight-bearing exercise, such as walking, jogging, or dancing, at least 3 days each week for healthy bones. But try to be physically active in other ways for your general health.

Other things to remember:

  • Take medicine to lower your blood pressure if your doctor prescribes it for you.
  • Use a water-based vaginal lubricant (not petroleum jelly) or a vaginal estrogen cream or tablet to help with vaginal discomfort.
  • Get regular pelvic and breast exams, Pap tests, and mammograms. You should also be checked for colon and rectal cancer and for skin cancer. Contact your doctor right away if you notice a lump in your breast or a mole that has changed.

Are you bothered by hot flashes? Menopause is not a disease that has to be treated. But you might need help with symptoms like hot flashes. Here are some ideas that have helped some women:

  • Try to keep track of when hot flashes happen—a diary can help. You might be able to use this information to find out what triggers your flashes and then avoid it.
  • When a hot flash starts, go somewhere cool.
  • If night sweats wake you, try sleeping in a cool room or with a fan on.
  • Dress in layers that you can take off if you get too warm.
  • Use sheets and clothing that let your skin “breathe.”
  • Have a cold drink (water or juice) when a flash is starting.

You could also talk to your doctor about whether there are any medicines to manage hot flashes. Gabapentin, megestrol acetate, and certain antidepressants seem to be helpful to some women.

Star


Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 02 June 2007 at 2:45am
The  first  thing. .... I  don't  know  Don what Menopause  means   and  on the  2nd  place  I  think  not  every  woman is  the  same..Doubt. Maybe  I am  wrong thinking...I%20Don


Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 02 June 2007 at 2:46am
Weezie  come  on....this  is  your  chance.Reading.to talk about Menopause too,LMAO


Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 02 June 2007 at 4:37pm
Shucander, maybe  you can come  with this  topic too.....
****Male MenoPause****
 


Posted By: weezie
Date Posted: 04 June 2007 at 1:06am
Originally posted by vutjebal

Weezie  come  on....this  is  your  chance.Reading.to talk about Menopause too,LMAO

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Confused Is menopause an illness?...

I didn't think that getting my first period was an illness
why is the last one a Ouch?...
Question Because she can't hatch no more?...Good!
Menopause is freedom; no more budget for pills ...or kotex Embarrassed

I work with someone who was going to Menopause classes, I tried hard not to laugh; because I love her dearly...Ermm I wonder how much she paid...
Console I should give some Menopause Seminars on my free Friday's...
Get some Lydia Pinkham Vegetable Compound and 'hand them out' at the end.

Healthy mind in healthy body.

Life is a transitory experience, with different cycles...
Thumbs%20Up I try to live it to the fullest; I don't try to override any part of it...


PS:  Remember 'Lydia Pinkham' in your grandma's cabinet ?


 

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Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 04 June 2007 at 1:17am
Originally posted by weezie

Originally posted by vutjebal

Weezie  come  on....this  is  your  chance.Reading.to talk about Menopause too,LMAO
 

     ******
Confused Is menopause an illness?...

I didn't think that getting my first period was an illness
why is the last one a Ouch?
...
 
Ermm  wow  weezie.....I can tell you about my  First PeriodEmbarrassed
But  don't ask me to say a word  about  MENOPAUSE,Question because I really really  don't  know  what ..exactly... it  is.....EmbarrassedEmbarrassedEmbarrassedWink
So no MENOPAUSE Classes for me  neitherConsole


 
 


Posted By: Scott
Date Posted: 04 June 2007 at 10:14pm
Originally posted by weezie


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Confused Is menopause an illness?...

I didn't think that getting my first period was an illness
why is the last one a Ouch?...

I think the problem is that people have forgotten what is natural, and the drug companies want as many things as possible labeled as a disease so they can sell drugs for it.

I've actually heard some weird people imply that having a period was a disease!

I guess it is part of the new birth control pills that they are pushing that gets rid of a woman's period completely.


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Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 04 June 2007 at 11:02pm
  Oh%20My ..Reading ...Silly


Posted By: Scott
Date Posted: 04 June 2007 at 11:08pm
That is part of the reason why our culture is so messed up.  Often cultures actually try to suppress or ignore the natural process of life, and often tell people that it is wrong or abnormal to go through normal natural processes.

Saying menopause is a disease is just part of that.  It's a natural process and there is nothing wrong with it, just like it is nothing wrong with puberty and all that goes along with that.

People try to pretend their children are asexual until they are 21 (which is not true), and then pretend that they will be fertile until they are 100 (which is also not true).

I suppose it's just denial that we get older.


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Posted By: Shucander
Date Posted: 10 June 2007 at 12:00am

Menopauze

Het geheim van menopauze is omkering. Vóór de menopauze is een vrouw met name gericht op de binnenkant. Het ligt in haar natuur om zich in die periode bezig te houden met dat wat er in haar "buik" leeft. Dat is ook wat je ziet, de belevingswereld van de vrouw richt zich op het gezin en de kinderen. Daar ligt ook haar kracht, in de verbinding met de binnenwereld. 

Tijdens de overgang, het woord zegt het al, vindt er een bepaalde verandering plaats. Het is een verandering die met name plaatsvindt in je belevingswereld. Vóór de overgang richt de energie van de vrouw zich met name op de "binnenwereld". In de praktijk komt het er meestal op neer dat ze, diep in haar hart, het gezin en kinderen belangrijk vindt. Ze houd zich als het ware bezig met dat wat er in haar buik leeft, met omhulling, koestering, een nestje bouwen zou je kunnen zeggen. Daar ligt op dat moment ook haar kracht. Je moet dit meer zien als het richten van energie, dat wat ze vanuit haar hart het liefste zou doen, of het belangrijkste vind (het doet er niet toe of je wel of niet kinderen of wel of niet een baan hebt). 

Tijdens de overgang vindt er een omkering plaats, dit is een volkomen natuurlijk proces. Om je heen is de noodzaak om binnen te blijven afgenomen (kinderen de deur uit, thuis de zaak op orde, leuke baan). Je energie wil zich nu meer gaan richten op de buitenwereld. Dat is ook wat je ziet gebeuren, vrouwen willen zich na de overgang, diep in hun hart, meer bezighouden met hun actie kant, met de (grote boze) buitenwereld, met dat wat er in hun hoofd leeft. Ze hebben, bij wijze van spreken, nu lang genoeg gezorgd en gemoederd, het is nu tijd voor andere dingen. Ontwikkeling, groeien en energie is iets heel raars. Dat hou je niet zomaar tegen. Kijk maar naar kleine kinderen..

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Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 10 June 2007 at 3:39am
Even in the Dutch language...I still don't  know  what Menopause means....Wink


Posted By: Shucander
Date Posted: 10 June 2007 at 3:52am
Originally posted by vutjebal

Even in the Dutch language...I still don't  know  what Menopause means....Wink
 
Y Amen no mas.
 


Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 10 June 2007 at 4:38am
what...shucander........Amen and no more????
I think  with  all the info...you're  graduated. Nice  info.
 
But  don't  be  mad....but  still i don't  know  what is Menopause..Wink


Posted By: Alize
Date Posted: 10 June 2007 at 7:32am
Originally posted by Scott

Women react to things very differently.  Some women have more issues during menopause than others, just like some women have more issues through childbirth than others.  I suppose that if a person can go 9 months without knowing she is pregnant, a women can go through menopause without having any issues at all.And with all the posting by Shucander, I was starting to think he was going through menopause.
unfortunately, I was having those thoughts myself...I mean its very informative, but that many facts coming from him..inquiring minds always wonder!

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Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 10 June 2007 at 8:27am

Like  i said...I can't  explain what is MENOPAUSE....and  don't  ask me  why..Wink

But  not  every woman  is  the  same. So maybe I am  not  the same  like Shucander's info..**women**...
 
But  like he  said...Amen and  not moreWhistling


Posted By: Shucander
Date Posted: 10 June 2007 at 11:51pm
Originally posted by vutjebal

Like  i said...I can't  explain what is MENOPAUSE....and  don't  ask me  why..Wink

But  not  every woman  is  the  same. So maybe I am  not  the same  like Shucander's info..**women**...
 
But  like he  said...Amen and  not moreWhistling
 
I have read the book of Drs. Tony Green, Muher y Menopausa, and I have also host a radio program about this topic, and also I have wrote in the local paper about this topic, and my wife is going through this very normal women issue in their life now for 4 years. But I can tell what I can understand from you as a old age women that you don't no what that means. So I will repeat for you what the Doctor have said during the congress about this topic, in the Renaissance Congress Center. Not all the women in this modern time sometime going through menopause very remarkable, what is a Normal women facts at the age of 45 to 50-52 years. Some will have it like every womens do with their symptoms. But some of the women don't even know that she was going through this, only they don't have her period every month.  But this women who don't have the symptoms at this age of 45/50-52 will have for sure at the age of 73, and she will have it very strong and she will go into hard time medically. And it is very difficult for an old age women above the 70-73 with a lot of illness complications. So as the Gynaecologist said during the meeting, it is a must for every women. So therefore and can't understand you always you said I don't know what that means. So today I will say you to be prepared for your 73, it will be a hard time for you, because that's god's will, not my will. I hope I have explain my self. (Every time you wrote I don,t know, I always try to explain, but I can't go on and on and on, because as a person It's my duty to explain and share something I know with my fellow man)
Shucander.
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Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 11 June 2007 at 3:06am
Originally posted by shucander 
 
So therefore and can't understand you always you said I don't know what that means. So today I will say you to be prepared for your 73, it will be a hard time for you, because that's god's will, not my will. I hope I have explain my self. (Every time you wrote I don,t know, I always try to explain, but I can't go on and on and on, because as a person It's my duty to explain and share something I know with my fellow man)
Shucander.[/QUOTE]
 
Sorry, shucander  to dissapointed you, but  still at  my  73, I  still, won't  or  don't know   what  means **MENOPAUSE**Wink
 
And  for me  it seems so strange  that  you as  on old age manConfused, and giving  all kind  info  about  MENOPAUSE still can''t understand  me.Smile
 
 
and  now for me it's okayEmbarrassed.  No more..Tongue


Posted By: Scott
Date Posted: 11 June 2007 at 2:21pm
I don't think it's true that all women will have the "symptoms" on menopause, even though they do have menopause.

If a woman can go 9 months without knowing she is pregnant and delivers the baby the same day she found out, then I think a woman can go through menopause without the typical symptoms.

Personally, I think most of the typical symptoms people have are more related to their diet and their health not being in sync with the process their body is going through.  If a person is having symptoms or having a hard time, most likely something is off balance in their bodies, which unfortunately is most of us.


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Posted By: weezie
Date Posted: 11 June 2007 at 4:38pm
Evil%20Smile Beating Old Age…(at 50)

Estrogen : works by replacing estrogen that is normally produced by the body.
It's used to treat hot flushes ('hot flashes'; sudden strong feelings of heat and sweating) in women who are experiencing menopause ('change of life', the end of monthly menstrual periods).
Estrogen is in a class of medications called hormones...


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(Ouch quality of life at 73)

Estrogen may cause side effects...
  • breast pain or tenderness
  • upset stomach
  • vomiting
  • heartburn
  • constipation
  • diarrhea
  • gas
  • weight gain or loss
  • leg cramps
  • nervousness
  • depression
  • dizziness
  • burning or tingling in the arms or legs
  • tight muscles
  • hair loss
  • unwanted hair growth
  • spotty darkening of the skin on the face
  • difficulty wearing contact lenses
  • swelling, redness, burning, itching, or irritation of the vagina
  • vaginal discharge
  • change in sexual desire
  • cold symptoms
  • bulging eyes
  • sore throat, fever, chills, cough, and other signs of infection
  • pain, swelling, or tenderness in the stomach
  • loss of appetite
  • weakness
  • yellowing of the skin or eyes
  • joint pain
  • movements that are difficult to control
  • rash or blisters
  • hives
  • itching
  • swelling of the eyes, face, tongue, throat, hands, arms, feet, ankles, or lower legs
  • hoarseness
  • difficulty breathing or swallowing
Estrogen may increase your risk of developing cancer of the ovaries or gallbladder disease that may need to be treated with surgery. http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/medmaster/a682922.html">Wink





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Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 11 June 2007 at 6:00pm
OOPS......looking  at  the  list..Oh%20My..weezie...I  think.... NO second hand's  Car...has a chance.  Wink

Not  even at the old.... Carfields....(sloperij  in Dutch
)LMAO


Posted By: Alize
Date Posted: 12 June 2007 at 6:41am
I guess someone failed to mentioned that women as young as in the late 30's go through menopause....it all comes down to individuals...older women alone don't get the blunt of it...just pray that when it hits ya, u don't go through as many changes as others have. BY the way, ever look at the word...Men - O - Pause ( men(sex) is put on (hold) Pause.

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Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 12 June 2007 at 6:49am
My sis.............. http://photobucket.com/mediadetail/?media=http%3A%2F%2Fi164.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu15%2Feddiesalas722%2FSoPretty.jpg&searchTerm=YES&pageOffset=8">yes http://photobucket.com/mediadetail/?media=http%3A%2F%2Fi151.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs153%2FBrindleBoxer315%2Fthavatar_4437.gif&searchTerm=laughing&pageOffset=18">Laughing


Posted By: Shucander
Date Posted: 16 June 2007 at 4:54pm
http://photobucket.com/mediadetail/?media=http%3A%2F%2Fi151.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs153%2FBrindleBoxer315%2Fthavatar_4437.gif&searchTerm=laughing&pageOffset=18">Laughing  


Posted By: Shucander
Date Posted: 16 June 2007 at 4:56pm
Oh sorry since I have no edith button, I forgot to say Copied from Vutje.


Posted By: harmac
Date Posted: 16 June 2007 at 5:33pm
Moving time Scott. to Health and wellness, Please.


Posted By: Scott
Date Posted: 16 June 2007 at 7:32pm
Thanks Harmac.  I missed this one.

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Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 16 June 2007 at 11:36pm
Originally posted by Shucander

Oh sorry since I have no edith button, I forgot to say Copied from Vutje.
Shucander  why  you  have  to act  like  that... just  be  yourself  please...Wink


Posted By: Shucander
Date Posted: 17 June 2007 at 1:39am
LOLGive%20Up


Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 17 June 2007 at 2:15am
Thanks  for  the  flag Whistling


Posted By: Snowflake
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2007 at 1:49pm
Btw, did you know today is "World Menopause Day"?


Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2007 at 2:03pm
Thanks for letting  us know, but again I don't know  what is *Menopause*Wink
Hope can't be worsed then how I felt today.....overreactsmiley.gif


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Posted By: solange
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2007 at 9:50am
Meeeeeeeaaaaaaaaauw...I just luv a good "cat fight"..LMAO


Posted By: Snowflake
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2007 at 10:02am
I hope menopause will not hit me too hard when the time has come, especially these moodinesses I don't like having it at all.


Posted By: solange
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2007 at 10:15am
Well, I have no problem with moodiness...was born moody, or so my dad keeps telling me ! Wink


Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2007 at 8:52pm

LADIES, just wait  for when the  time has come...and  let me know pleaseeee

what is menopause like and how it feelsWink



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Posted By: Snowflake
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2007 at 1:36am
Will do Vutje, will do.


Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2007 at 1:40am
Will wait  snowy  Will WAIT....

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Posted By: txbebe
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2008 at 9:15pm
ok


Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2008 at 12:02pm
  http://www.sweetim.com/s.asp?im=gen&ref=10">  

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Posted By: Abdiel
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2008 at 3:39pm
LMAO breathe vutje breathe

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Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2008 at 10:20pm
What is so funny aby????? http://gsm.messtools.nl/?mmchar32_1=&mmstart32_1=11&mmsection32_1=331&mmphonetype32_1=&mmmoreinfo32_1=0&mmpart32_1=&mmsearch32_1=&mmstype32_1=&mmcat32_1=&mmcountry32_1=&pagina=apictures#">

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Posted By: sandra
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2008 at 1:05am
Originally posted by vutjebal

What is so funny aby????? http://gsm.messtools.nl/?mmchar32_1=&mmstart32_1=11&mmsection32_1=331&mmphonetype32_1=&mmmoreinfo32_1=0&mmpart32_1=&mmsearch32_1=&mmstype32_1=&mmcat32_1=&mmcountry32_1=&pagina=apictures#">


texbebe digging up all dem old graves.

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Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2008 at 9:28am
oops... that will be  really really  fun.... with our  http://www.sweetim.com/s.asp?im=gen&ref=10">  

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Posted By: sandra
Date Posted: 05 July 2011 at 12:48pm


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Posted By: Citizen Eve
Date Posted: 05 July 2011 at 4:13pm

... hm mmm ... interesting ...


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Posted By: sandra
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 7:07am


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Posted By: Citizen Eve
Date Posted: 07 July 2011 at 12:26am


 Big%20smile ... be careful you lose your heaad with all that bopping sandra ... Tongue


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Posted By: sandra
Date Posted: 07 July 2011 at 7:30am


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Posted By: Citizen Eve
Date Posted: 10 July 2011 at 12:27am


... this menopause business I plan to skip ... as far as am concerned it is more social indoctrination fueled by the pharmaceutical companies for financial gains ... my grandmother and mother did not have those strange experiences  and I plan not to either ...


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Posted By: sandra
Date Posted: 21 July 2011 at 7:16am
Good for you, CE. Some people go crazy when going thru menopause.

Women are cursed because of Eve. Childbirth pain, mensturation, hot flashes (menopause) fibroids....

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Posted By: vutjebal
Date Posted: 30 July 2011 at 6:04pm
Keep going  sandy......you with your EVE's curse
I am happy..... http://www.sweetim.com/s.asp?im=gen&ref=10">    

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Posted By: sandra
Date Posted: 11 July 2012 at 12:20am
Gotcha, CE.

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Posted By: Citizen Eve
Date Posted: 11 July 2012 at 4:19pm

 ... what did you spike that coffe with Sandra ... LOLLOL ... you are buzzed ...


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Posted By: sandra
Date Posted: 11 July 2012 at 7:54pm
I'm so happy that you're back that I got a natral high.

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Posted By: Citizen Eve
Date Posted: 12 July 2012 at 1:23am

... sweet ... am happy to be back and chatting with you here ... Big%20smile ... reason am mad that the stake holders are not doing better with CC ...


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